[resource-net] transmediale/ctm/vorspiel Community Review?

[Maria Dada]

I'm new so still trying to get to grips with this forum.  But generally I'm
hoping to see some interesting work and engage in some nice discussion.


Maria Dada
http://mariadada.com

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 at 17:19 Rachel Uwa <rachel.uwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your comments, Cristiano and Allegra!
>
> Sadly this thread hasn't received the same grand attention as another
> thread today (lol).
> I think it's good people want to leave if they're not participating (or
> gone).
> I guess it all just brings into question, what is everyone else doing here?
>
> We rarely come together except to talk about vorspiel.
> Other than that, the AG21c seems to be the active peeps who wanna go
> the informing/activist/doingsomethingproductive route which is brililant.
>
> So what is this group good for other than ignoring each other's posts
> or being unhappy if a few people unsubscribe in an accidentally public
> fashion?
>
> Why are you all here?
>
> Feel free to answer that and/or tell me when/if there will be a next meetup
> to discuss/review :)
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:10 PM, liebig12 <liebigzwoelfe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree. It would be great to discuss outcomes and deals for the future.
> >
> > I see that the reason of the Vorspiel as initiative, is just becoming
> more
> > and more a mediatic opportunity for everyone of us & especially
> > for Transmediale & CTM to promote themselves and acquire our collective
> > programming / documentation under their umbrella, for the need to show
> how
> > providing they are for the community of independent project spaces and
> > initiatives working within their field of interests.This increases
> > obviously their chances & capabilities to achieve fundings and attention
> > from any direction.
> >
> > Im not convinced at all about the quality, genuineness, sustainability
> and
> > transparency of this initiative anymore…or the need from our side to fall
> > under this Format.
> >
> > Its maybe true that more people get aware of our existence due the
> > presence on the media but in fact the actual outcome and level of
> attention
> > doesn’t mirror really this media-effect.
> >
> > I propose there could be more space within the actual CTM & Transmediale
> > Festival´s Program for contribution by the reSource Network. A rather
> > inclusive approach to contribute to a real encounter between the
> festival,
> > the audience and the re-Source Network.
> >
> > I don’t believe in such institutional size anyway - its just a giant
> > machine that has nothing to do any longer with the independent approach
> and
> > DIY inclusive approach is actually aiming for.
> >
> > A lot of human and non-Human resources that must fill requests and
> measurements
> > typical of Institutions.
> >
> > Fair enough and still respect but not my call especially if there is no
> > effort to re-shape the approach but just contents that are becoming
> almost
> > demagogy. If we discuss topics such “Face Value” without disrupting it
> but
> > only illustrating what we are criticising….mmmm…is that to be taken
> serious?
> >
> > Such issues has been the issues every year and to be honest no real
> > improvements has been happening.
> >
> > The re-Source & Vorspiel - did have a great impact and value as it was
> > born and carefully curated by Tatiana Bazzichelli that is now again
> > curating independently.
> >
> > Still, this newsletter has an incredible value!
> >
> > So looking forward!
> >
> > best
> > Allegra
> >
> > Liebig12
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> >
> >
> > On 12 Feb 2018, at 12:22, Cristiano Cesolari <
> cristiano.cesolari at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I'm not sure if we talked about it but I would say that it might be a
> very
> > good idea, specially this year that the spaces were so many, we
> definitely
> > can grab useful information out of it and be, after the awesomeness of
> this
> > edition, super awesome for the next
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Cristiano
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2018 11:57, "Rachel Uwa" <rachel.uwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > I don't remember but are there or will there be opportunities to talk
> about
> > transmediale/ctm/vorspiel as review to discuss how they went and what
> might
> > be different in the future?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Happy Monday!
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Rachel
> >
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