[resource-net] Next Roundtable + technology issue

Fri Nov 9 17:07:48 CET 2012

Hi everyone, 
thanks Tatiana & Pod for your ideas on the network's identity. I agree that it's more interesting to look at the aspects of networking and the ways we relate to our common situation instead of having 'technology' as the prevailing motto for our initiative. Personally, I would be very happy to be challenged by new notions of art, activism and networking practices. And maybe we shouldn't pin down everything from scratch - it's also great to open up such a (digital) space and see how people will use it and what will evolve out of it. 
So if we look at a name for this common 'attitude' we could also think of something brief & activating, something like: 

Ela Kagel 
Managing Partner 

SUPERMARKT 
Brunnenstrasse 64 
D-13355 Berlin 

Office: 
SUPERMARKT-STUDIOS 
Brunnenstrasse 69 
Studio 2 
D-13355 Berlin 

Tel: +49 30 609 875 905 
Fax: +49 30 609 875 909 
Cell: +49 171 534 82 07 

www.supermarkt-berlin.net 

ela at supermarkt-berlin.net 

SUPERMARKT ON FACEBOOK 
SUPERMARKT ON TWITTER 

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. November 2012 15:07:13 
Betreff: Re: [resource-net] Next Roundtable + technology issue 

Hi tati et al, 

I also wanted to respond 
re: the technology question... 

>the discourse of creating a network among people that share 
> the same "attitude" towards art (and technology) is more relevant. 

this sounds a lot more like where the crucial intersections + common 
territory lie... 

I would go much further and say the arts which are not tactically + 
socially engaged are becoming less and less relevant to ( the survival of 
) the human species... and our very challenging situations. 

And there is quite a growing abundance of consumer + corporate-driven tech 
art that is growing exponentially like an evil fungus, and it may be good 
to differentiate ourselves from it. 

i started yesterday to write: 

If someone uses a pencil to draw a plan for a bicycle-powered cell-phone 
charger after a hurricane ... this will ultimately deserve more space in a 
21st Century Art context than say, an i-Phone Musical. 

or something like that. 

... 

on names... 

i kind of like AtØm (Hub)... 

... still hunting if there's something that may contain this inspiring and 
fiesty 'attitude' of which we speak... 

gruesse! 
p. 

> Hi, 
> 
> it is great to see that the discussion is developing so lively, it looks 
> great! 
> Unfortunately I will be out of town for a conference from 11 to 16 
> December, so I won't be able to attend the next meeting. However, we can 
> use this list as a platform to develop the initiative, and to 
> communicate it to the people that won't be there. 
> 
> About the question on technology: I am not sure actually "technology" 
> should be the main thing is connecting everybody. I agree with Chris 
> that of course we cannot open exponentially the group, but I also think 
> that maybe the discourse of creating a network among people that share 
> the same "attitude" towards art (and technology) is more relevant. My 
> background is coming from the hacker culture, and even if we know that 
> hackers are of course the ones using technology deeply and consciously, 
> among the community we always said that you can be a hacker even if you 
> have never used a computer. What we all shared was a common 
> understanding of politics, culture, art and of course technology, but 
> most of all a common way to deal with the "status quo". 
> 
> I believe that if somebody enters into a network is because there is 
> already something to share, and this is what makes the network alive. I 
> would not easily go into a network of people working on quantum physic, 
> and I believe that the people around the reSource list are already 
> sharing something specific. So I wonder if we really need to say that 
> what bring us all together is technology only. I would actually say, 
> that it is technology AND something else (maybe network culture, DIY, a 
> certain libertarian - which is not liberal! - attitude towards culture 
> and politics, etc). 
> 
> About the names, I like very much the idea of Diana, since she opens it 
> up to a variety of practices: 
> 
> NICE BERLIN 
> Network Internet Culture Exchange - Berlin 
> 
> and it is very funny, too 
> 
> Best! 
> 
> Tatiana 
> 
> 
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