[resource-net] From 3rd Roundtable at Liebig12 + piratepad Url

Ela Kagel ela at supermarkt-berlin.net
Fri Nov 2 12:55:21 CET 2012


Thanks Paolo, hi everyone, 
really enjoyed last night's meeting! Thanks to everyone who organized and attended, looking forward to continue the discussions. 
See you next time at SUPERMARKT, 
we'll figure out which date will work best 
Ela 











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----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- 
Von: "podinski" <pod at xlterrestrials.org> 
An: resource-net at transmediale.de 
Gesendet: Freitag, 2. November 2012 12:42:29 
Betreff: [resource-net] From 3rd Roundtable at Liebig12 + piratepad Url 

Hi all, 

Discussions triggered lots of thinking... Fun ! 

Here's the piratepad URL for playing with names of this 
new arts resource / network / entity: 

http://piratepad.net/artsource 

not familiar with all the parameters + options of piratepad myself, so try 
playing around as u like... and save your revisions... 

Sch.Gruess! 

Paolo Podrescu 
aka 
Pod 


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> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Regarding this topic: 
> 
> One result could be a*common platform* (such as a website) to inform the 
> public of events in “technology based arts� happening in Berlin. This 
> site could also be linked to a common /QR/ barcode/ image, that could be 
> displayed at venues and across the city with a link to the web platform. 
> 
> 
> I have been meaning to send this. I really like this website my friends 
> did for a City in the northeast of Brazil, Fortaleza- 
> http://mapeamentofortaleza.org.br/. Its a mapping where they aggregated 
> all the cultural spaces of the city, with the contact, website, space 
> availability, and you can filter it in many ways. Also, everybody can 
> update it since it uses a wordpress theme/plug in 
> http://mapasdevista.hacklab.com.br/ 
> 
> Anyways, is just an idea that we can discuss further on Thursday, but I 
> think that would be nice to focus in tools that can help public, 
> cultural agents and artists to navigate through the different spaces in 
> Berlin. 
> 
> All best and bis donnerstag! 
> 
> Georgia 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 26.10.2012 01:51, schrieb Gaia Bartolini: 
>> hey p ! 
>> i ve been part of the summer camp tooo in 2009 at HKW! 
>> i wish I could remember our encounter! 
>> please come by on the 1st of november at Liebig12. 
>> Looking forward to hear about yr ideas and meet you. 
>> 
>> gaia/allegra/Liebig12 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> On 25. Okt 2555 BE, at 16:42, "podinski"<pod at xlterrestrials.org> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> I haven't been able to attend one of these meetings since General 
>>> Public 
>>> in Aug(?)... 
>>> 
>>> But very interested in the network and TM/Re:source's new approach to 
>>> strengthening the local ties ( and facilitate longterm + tangible goals 
>>> for artists living in, and particpating in Berlin ) and I will try and 
>>> make it to Liebig12 Nov. 1st. 
>>> 
>>> Since i've been a little out of the loop, i won't attempt to suggest 
>>> agenda, but maybe my perspective on "media art spaces" below will help 
>>> give a broader view to the network here... 
>>> 
>>> And just to mention: our current projects - XLterrestrials + Citizen 
>>> Kino 
>>> - are mobile nomadic projects without a physical homebase, but 
>>> interacting 
>>> with a variety of venues and social spaces. 
>>> 
>>> see you soon! 
>>> 
>>> Paolo Pod~rescu 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 0----O----o 
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>>> o-----O------0 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> p.s. My 2 cents analysis, re: media art spaces... 
>>> have a look if you have time, and if it seems relevant: 
>>> 
>>> Back in Aug. 2009, there was a Sommercamp + Workstation 09 at Haus Der 
>>> Kulturen Der Welt, organized by Dock ( Tesla and Garage people ). 
>>> 
>>> I took part in a weekend workshop for Media Lab Groups, with 
>>> representatives (mostly from Spanish-speaking regions) : 
>>> 
>>> www.citilab.eu ,www.escuelab.org ,www.disonancias.com/es/ , 
>>> http://moddr.net/ ,www.tijuanamedialab.org/ , 
>>> http://ptqkblogzine.blogia.com/ ,http://metareciclagem.ourproject.org/ 
>>> , 
>>> www.medialab-prado.es ,http://access-space.org/ , 
>>> http://xlterrestrials.org , and more ... 
>>> 
>>> You can glimpse a blog entry on it here: 
>>> 
>>> http://xlterrestrials.org/plog/?p=3501 
>>> 
>>> A full XLterrestrial analysis was never completed, but in short: 
>>> 
>>> We spent a long time debating whether the hacklabs and media labs, 
>>> which 
>>> we all interacted with and/or were helping to create, are labs about 
>>> Much 
>>> more than technology or new media. In the end, we saw our centers as 
>>> new 
>>> "Social Lab" Centers. 
>>> 
>>> I.e. The fast-growing phenomenon of Hacklabs are spaces expanding 
>>> beyond 
>>> just hacking,technology, gadgets, devices, the net... they are involved 
>>> in 
>>> hacking ,altering, tweaking the ( dominant) social operating systems 
>>> and/or creating new ones. 
>>> 
>>> In the same way, i would say that galleries heavily involved in 'new 
>>> media' would benefit in seeing themselves as art spaces which are also 
>>> taking on the shift from art as only object - commodity, entertainment, 
>>> culture sharing and communication exchange, but places to channel 
>>> creativity into engaging with the looming social challenges / crises. 
>>> 
>>> But that's my personal outlook... since our own XLterrestrials project 
>>> shifted from media environments to focusing on arts + praxis for 
>>> "community organisms" over the last couple years. 
>>> 
>>> [ Note: somewhere there's a wiki page from that Media Lab workshop... 
>>> if anyone's interested i will try and find the link again. ] 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dear all, 
>>>> 
>>>> I also look forward to meeting everybody at Liebig12 on November 1st! 
>>>> I 
>>>> agree that we should collectively build up an agenda for the meeting. 
>>>> 
>>>> Are we thinking to create a special focus for that? I believe that 
>>>> since 
>>>> last time we were focusing especially in the idea of creating a 
>>>> network 
>>>> of spaces through common initiatives, then maybe we can get practical 
>>>> and start to imagine something related to this idea. It would also be 
>>>> good to know who is thinking to come to the next meeting, so we start 
>>>> counting us... 
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe we should clarify that this meeting is not only for media art 
>>>> spaces, as we said last time, but to spaces (and individuals) oriented 
>>>> to work towards networked initiatives dedicated to technology based 
>>>> arts 
>>>> (this is the definition that we proposed at the last meeting...). Am I 
>>>> right? 
>>>> 
>>>> Another thing: I would like to anticipate to you that soon I will send 
>>>> a 
>>>> call for the next initiative of partner events preceding transmediale 
>>>> and CTM (the week before the festivals) - the former "Vorspiel" - and 
>>>> actually that could be a great occasion to start imagining a 
>>>> distributed 
>>>> series of events. 
>>>> More info will follow on this...(we are working on that) :) 
>>>> 
>>>> All the best! 
>>>> 
>>>> Tatiana 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/10/2012 18:23,cdelutz at artlaboratory-berlin.org wrote: 
>>>>> Hi Georgia, hi Allegra, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suggest we build an agenda around Allegra's invitation. I can help 
>>>>> next week (from the 29th) - just let me know. But feel free to 
>>>>> contact 
>>>>> me if you have any questions. Am busy until Friday setting up our 
>>>>> next 
>>>>> exhibition: 
>>>>> http://artlaboratory-berlin.org/html/eng-exh-archive.htm 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/293592174074960/ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Saturday I'll be at H&B 
>>>>> Christian de Lutz 
>>>>> ARTLABORATORYBERLIN 
>>>>> Prinzenallee 34 
>>>>> 13359 Berlin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> office/ post address: 
>>>>> Nostitzstrasse 12 
>>>>> 10961 Berlin 
>>>>> www.artlaboratory-berlin.org <http://www.artlaboratory-berlin.org/> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://www.cdelutz.net/> 
>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- 
>>>>> *From:* Georgia Nicolau<gn at transmediale.de> 
>>>>> *To:*resource-net at transmediale.de 
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 October 2012, 17:53 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [resource-net] Minutes(Protokoll) of the 2nd 
>>>>> Roundtable 
>>>>> for Berlin New Media Spaces 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Chris, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for sending the Minutes of our last meeting! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should now start to develop together the next meeting on November 
>>>>> 1st. Are we confirmed? What to expect from it in terms of agenda? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mabye Allegra/Gaia could update us on the event and let us know if 
>>>>> she 
>>>>> needs help! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> All best and see you soon, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Georgia 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 03.10.2012 13:57, schriebcdelutz at artlaboratory-berlin.org 
>>>>> <mailto:cdelutz at artlaboratory-berlin.org>: 
>>>>>> Minutes (Protokoll) for 2nd Meeting and Roundtable for BerlinNew 
>>>>>> Media 
>>>>>> Spaces and Curators 
>>>>>> ** 
>>>>>> On Monday 24 September the 2^nd meeting took place at Art Laboratory 
>>>>>> Berlin at 7PM 
>>>>>> Among the attendees were Christian de Lutz (Art Laboratory Berlin), 
>>>>>> Erika Šiekštelytė (Panke e.V.), Gaia, Bartolini (Liebich 12), 
>>>>>> Desiree 
>>>>>> Foerster (free curator), Susanne Jaschko (free curator- 
>>>>>> Prozessagenten), Stefan Hoeppe, (free curator), Tatiana Bazzichelli 
>>>>>> (transmediale /reSource) , Daniela Silvestrin (transmediale), 
>>>>>> Georgia 
>>>>>> Nicolau (transmediale /reSource) and 3-4other guests. 
>>>>>> 1. The main topic of conversation was how to builda network 
>>>>>> ofBerlinspaces dedicated to technology based arts (new media*). 
>>>>>> *The term ‘new media’ was questioned by some participants as it 
>>>>>> doesn’t fit the diversity of emerging forms (e.g. bio arts, 
>>>>>> environmental art, etc) “technology based art� seemed to fit as 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> temporary fill in . (Also suggested: “21^st century arts�) 
>>>>>> 2. Possible goals of such a network include raising the profile of 
>>>>>> “technology based arts� in the large Berlinart world. This will 
>>>>>> help 
>>>>>> individual spaces receive more attention and gain more funding. Also 
>>>>>> regular meetings will increase exchange of ideas and information 
>>>>>> between spaces and give life to possible synergies for common 
>>>>>> projects, rhizomatic exhibition structures or multi-space 
>>>>>> interactive 
>>>>>> events. 
>>>>>> 3. One result could be acommon platform (such as a website) to 
>>>>>> inform 
>>>>>> the public of events in “technology based arts� happening in 
>>>>>> Berlin. 
>>>>>> This site could also be linked to a common QR/ barcode image, that 
>>>>>> could be displayed at venues and across the city with a link to the 
>>>>>> web platform. 
>>>>>> Also the idea of a series of ‘modds,’ one in each space, was put 
>>>>>> forward. Visitors could ‘carry’ a memory stick from space to 
>>>>>> space 
>>>>>> with updated information, thus creating anartwork common between 
>>>>>> spaces which also functions as an information portal (QR code and 
>>>>>> Modd 
>>>>>> were the ideas of Erika/Panke e.V.) 
>>>>>> 4. It was decided that to agree on a platform and set of goals, more 
>>>>>> spaces need to be involved (a minimum of 8 or 9 – three were 
>>>>>> present 
>>>>>> at the meeting). 
>>>>>> An open call for spaces to take part will take place via the 
>>>>>> reSource 
>>>>>> mailing list, as well as a mailed invitation. 
>>>>>> The reSource mailing-list will be used for further coordination of 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> project’s members, towards the creation of an independent common 
>>>>>> platform. 
>>>>>> 5.A date for the 3^rd meeting was set: Thursday 1 November at 6.30 
>>>>>> PMat Liebig 12 
>>>>>> <http://maps.google.de/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&q=liebigstr.12+berlin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x47a84e6719736ce7:0xab390aefdcd86dea,Liebigstra%C3%9Fe+12,+D-10247+Berlin&gl=de&sa=X&ei=1AJoUMCuJbTO4QSa24H4BQ&ved=0>. 
>>>>>> Further info on topics and general ideas will follow on the reSource 
>>>>>> mailing list. 
>>>>>> (cdl- 29 September) 
>>>>>> Christian de Lutz 
>>>>>> ARTLABORATORYBERLIN 
>>>>>> Prinzenallee 34 
>>>>>> 13359 Berlin 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> office/ post address: 
>>>>>> Nostitzstrasse 12 
>>>>>> 10961 Berlin 
>>>>>> www.artlaboratory-berlin.org <http://www.artlaboratory-berlin.org/> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.cdelutz.net/> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> transmediale signture 
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